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    <p>I agree. Blind and VI have unique challenges.</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/15/18 2:42 PM, Zachary Kline
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      Hey Jason et al,
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      <div class="">Please find my takes on these questions below.</div>
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      <div class="">1. Yeah, we definitely want low-vision and motor
        disabilities as well as blind. If we could find some
        cognitively-disabled testers that would be ideal too, but might
        be harder to evaluate and deal with.</div>
      <div class="">2. I’m in favor of 50-ish here, it seems a decent
        sample size for the audience.</div>
      <div class="">3. Fluency in English is about all I can think of
        here :)</div>
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        <div>Best,</div>
        <div>Zack.<br class="">
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            <div class="">On Nov 15, 2018, at 11:10 AM, Jason McIntosh
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                folks,
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                <div class="">Here are some requests for clarification
                  from Dr. Chris Power @ AbleGamers, who leads the
                  Player Panel program there. (And thank you again for
                  setting up that connection, Mark!)</div>
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                <div class="">I of course don’t wish to speak
                  unilaterally for the team, so I’d like to share the
                  questions with y’all, along with my own educated-guess
                  answers, and give y’all a chance to correct or improve
                  them. (Or a chance to say my answers seem fine, if in
                  fact they do.)</div>
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                <div class="">Please respond no later than the evening
                  of Monday, November 19. Let’s plan to discuss this at
                  our call then, as well, with an aim to get our
                  response back to Chris by the next day.<br class="">
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                            href="mailto:christopher@ablegamers.com"
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                          class=""><b class="">Re: Player Panel proposal
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                          <div class="">Looking at this document it has
                            most of what we need.  The players that you
                            need, you say that you are looking for
                            mobility and visual disabilities.  Just some
                            clarifications on this and I will get this
                            out early this week.</div>
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                          <div class="">1) When you say mobility
                            impairments I'm assuming upper limb
                            mobility.  For visual impairments, are you
                            looking for both blind and low-vision?</div>
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                    <div class="">Yes to upper-limb mobility
                      impairments, since these are plain old
                      mouse-and-keyboard games, and yes to both blind
                      and low-vision players — right?</div>
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                          <div class="">2) Approximately how players are
                            you looking for?  With <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">                     </span>this
                            advertisment with the players above, it will
                            go out to about 200 players.  That might
                            generate about 100 players for you.  You do
                            not have to engage with all of them - but if
                            you are only looking for a certain number,
                            we might advertise to a smaller cohort and
                            then snowball sample out for you.  </div>
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                    <div class="">This is an interesting question. If we
                      let our available budget dictate this, and we plan
                      to spend the committee’s entire $500 discretionary
                      fund on the $10 Amazon gift-card rewards, then
                      that sets an obvious upper limit of 50 players
                      (assuming that all of them complete their surveys,
                      which I imagine is probably not realistic). I am
                      also mindful that our resources for handling
                      questions from testers is also limited, and I
                      don’t want to overburden that resource (since I
                      reckon that I will personally help with that).</div>
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                    <div class="">Do we want to take Chris’s invitation
                      and start with an initial cap of 50 testers,
                      snowballing in another round or two if needed? Or
                      should we stretch to include more testers? (Hoping
                      to hear from crowd-testing veterans on what a good
                      target number is here, and noting that we
                      certainly can push beyond 50 if that would make a
                      significant better final report…)</div>
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                    <div class="">I suppose that we could also just
                      accept the whole, no-limit list, and then inform
                      them all that we will proceed to randomly choose
                      50 as our initial testing group, and treat the
                      remainder as a reserve (to fill in any gaps from
                      non-returned surveys), with a clearly defined
                      schedule so that nobody’s left surprised or
                      confused. But I’m not sure if that would be
                      against the intended use-pattern of Player Panels,
                      somehow?</div>
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                          <div class="">3) Are you looking in a
                            particular country?</div>
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                <div class="">I reckon that we do not care about
                  country, and require only that testers are fluent with
                  written English — right? (Granted, it’s a good
                  question, since I hadn’t considered that before now.)</div>
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